tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post8951153457007440394..comments2023-10-28T19:42:01.039+01:00Comments on Going fast, getting nowhere: The Tragedy of Wind PowerRichardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-17576610981236081162010-09-29T20:03:40.449+01:002010-09-29T20:03:40.449+01:00I'll have to set aside a half-day just to catc...I'll have to set aside a half-day just to catch up on all my reading. Great, and thank you again.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-55328572934988345182010-09-29T16:59:44.620+01:002010-09-29T16:59:44.620+01:00No probs Richard.
A good article here today about ...No probs Richard.<br />A good article here today about the windmill foundations being very poor due to the fixed price contracts of each windmill ( encourages cheap materials etc). Delingpole claims it's 'breaking news' but it's been mentioned in blogs for years. Especially in respect to offshore seagull mincers.<br /><br />http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100056158/wind-farms-yet-another-brewing-disaster/Donnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-30867559259478817662010-09-29T12:13:09.758+01:002010-09-29T12:13:09.758+01:00Excellent, Don. Thank you for taking the trouble....Excellent, Don. Thank you for taking the trouble. I will have a look into these when I get some time (the garden is calling me right now, last decent day for a while, I fear) and perhaps work up a substantive post on the topic.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-69516509265671164172010-09-29T11:33:15.249+01:002010-09-29T11:33:15.249+01:00Hi Richard. Here are some more links..
http://www...Hi Richard. Here are some more links..<br /><br />http://www.ozclimatesense.com/2010/07/denmarks-wind-turbines-dangerous-amount.html<br /><br />http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/05/11/the-myth-of-the-danish-green-energy-miracle.aspx<br /><br /><br />http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/05/15/claims-about-wind-power/<br /><br /><br />DonDonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-71244793468583315802010-09-28T19:39:16.563+01:002010-09-28T19:39:16.563+01:00Thanks Don. Looks interesting. I will have a goo...Thanks Don. Looks interesting. I will have a good look around in there. If you have any more, I'd love to have the links.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-11692913016173381892010-09-28T17:02:58.078+01:002010-09-28T17:02:58.078+01:00Richard..
Here's one from my bookmarks. I'...Richard..<br /><br />Here's one from my bookmarks. I'll search for more links. Used to have hundreds but lost the will to argue with the greenies so dumped most of them :)<br /><br />http://windfarms.wordpress.com/denmark/Donnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-41857489625305423102010-09-28T16:39:50.337+01:002010-09-28T16:39:50.337+01:00Thank you, Don. Do you have a reference for that ...Thank you, Don. Do you have a reference for that figure about Denmark? I would like to follow that one up.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-90168141404796630422010-09-28T16:17:31.029+01:002010-09-28T16:17:31.029+01:00Good post Richard. I agree with most of it apart f...Good post Richard. I agree with most of it apart from ....<br /><br />" each turbine needs 100% of idle, inefficient fossil-based backup for when the weather is calm"<br /><br />It's actually worse than that. Denmark found that they actually required more conventional power stations as they built more wind turbines because of the extra energy required to ramp the power stations up when the wind suddenly drops. The wind is annoying and refuses to follow a regular pattern that the power stations can prepare for. Denmarks' CO2 emissions have risen 36% over 10 years as they brought 9,000 or so windmills online.<br /><br />I was thinking about your Bilderberg 'global cooling' thoughts. Maybe they are like us 'skeptics' and know that the climate is warming and cooling over cycles but just want to put their resources into stopping this fact from getting out. More funding of the BBC and the EU etc to squash any talk of 'cooling'. Not that they know what's happening in reality but the public need brainwashing to remove 'cooling' from their vocabulary as the Bildebergers have some serious money invested in the carbon credit scam etc.Don Quiotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-41613200981619709612010-09-28T10:06:26.530+01:002010-09-28T10:06:26.530+01:00I'm glad someone else thinks the same way abou...I'm glad someone else thinks the same way about the ugliness of these things. Anna, and a lot of other people, say they are quite beautiful. I can agree, to a point. In an industrial or urban setting, they look OK - functional and not unattractive. It's when they put them on hillsides, marching across the landscape like an advacing army, that I object. Hamlet probably has the answer: "There is nothing good or bad, Horatio, but thinking makes it so." It's not that these things are objectively ugly - but when I look up at the Cambrian Mountains NE of Aberystwyth and see forests of white turbines, all that I can think of is the con that is being perpetrated on the British people, the green lobbyists rubbing their hands at yet another taxpayer handout, the smug politicians congratulating themselves on being 'climate-change aware'. The people who throw their hands up in horror if anyone in a 4x4 or on a trailbike wants to go there for a bit of recreation, but are happy to destroy the landscape for a bit of 'cool'.<br /><br />When all the lonely places are gone, where will we go to be quiet?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-39556874693282594822010-09-28T02:15:57.915+01:002010-09-28T02:15:57.915+01:00I watched it on Channel 4 news. Wish I could remem...I watched it on Channel 4 news. Wish I could remember who they had in the studio to debate it, but the con side was held up by a committed renewables energy expert who made basically the same points you do. Against him was an oily reptile from the agency responsible for the contract, who did nothing but evade the point and quote glib but unsubstantiated numbers.<br /><br />What did particularly annoy me was the apples-and-oranges style of accounting. It cost £780m to build. It potentially generates 200,000 homes-worth of electricity. As completely meaningless a comparison as you could hope to find.<br /><br />The only conclusion which can be drawn from it is that the numbers obviously don't add up to good value, either in isolation or by unit comparison to other energy sources. Probably both - bearing in mind that it would be possible to add a fairly substantial "green premium" on unit cost and sell that to the public conscience. My working assumption is that, actually, it's the most eye-wateringly expensive and inefficient method of power generation available by some considerable margin.<br /><br />Oh, and completely, obscenely, hideously ugly.<br /><br />Absolutely with you on the despairing front.endemoniada_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-57357684895285083402010-09-27T19:06:47.811+01:002010-09-27T19:06:47.811+01:00Thanks!Thanks!Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-23311487961288759492010-09-27T18:42:59.339+01:002010-09-27T18:42:59.339+01:00Richard,
That's all right then. That's p...Richard, <br /><br />That's all right then. That's put right again. Just saying. Consider yourself one of us.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-35894736752754730982010-09-27T17:55:58.515+01:002010-09-27T17:55:58.515+01:00Hat-tip to Jim, with his wildly sensible and crazi...Hat-tip to Jim, with his <a href="http://theeldritchhounds.blogspot.com/2010/09/aeolus.html" rel="nofollow">wildly sensible and crazily reasonable comments on wind farmery </a>.<br /><br />Thank you, Jim.. The world just ain't fair sometimes.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-40469278886525749552010-09-27T14:01:55.216+01:002010-09-27T14:01:55.216+01:00Anyway,
I'm wise to yez all. I post a commen...Anyway, <br /><br />I'm wise to yez all. I post a comment on Weasel about ABBA - two days later ABBA is is headline, post a blog about windfarms - two days later it's Richard's headline, post a sarky remark on Subrosa and she blanks it and she never blanks people.<br /><br />The truth is here - it always is:<br /><br />http://theeldritchhounds.blogspot.com/2010/09/paranoia-solutions-your-worst-fears.htmlJim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7099099432720184584.post-42707273486812235842010-09-27T13:27:51.757+01:002010-09-27T13:27:51.757+01:00Did I not say as much meself just the other day.
...Did I not say as much meself just the other day. <br /><br />No hat-tip I see.<br /><br />Sigh.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.com